tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post5053668327923284039..comments2023-07-30T21:23:49.509+08:00Comments on Because I say so...: Baby Dumping—Capital Punishment?Corneliushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-53552002953712943752010-08-20T23:25:03.661+08:002010-08-20T23:25:03.661+08:00Scho,
I was running with Dr Peter yesterday eveni...Scho,<br /><br />I was running with Dr Peter yesterday evening, and we were talking about this subject again. I find it interesting that Dr Peter did not seem to be very much for the capital punishment. <br /><br />It is not that he doesn't see baby dumping as a serious matter, but he feels that our Government has failed to provide adequate alternatives for these young mothers.<br /><br />I pointed out to him that we do have centres where these young mothers could send their babies anonymously. But I was caught offguard when Dr Peter asked me if I knew where is the nearest centre. I had to reluctantly admit that I had no idea! <br /><br />So the point is that the authority should make more effort to publicise these centres to send unwanted babies; that mothers can then easily find these centres. If that has been done, and these mothers still opt to dump their babies, then maybe the capital punishment may be more appropriate. I think this is a good point by Dr Peter.Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-80454701571652432652010-08-19T22:50:31.774+08:002010-08-19T22:50:31.774+08:00Cornelius, yes this is a very sad situation. Hopef...Cornelius, yes this is a very sad situation. Hopefully young people will learn to value family. Thanks for your reply. We all can do something to help our one and only habitable planet.Schohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14952395428178721957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-23284721489290693462010-08-17T13:37:23.546+08:002010-08-17T13:37:23.546+08:00Oh yes, in the news today, are 2 lovers who have e...Oh yes, in the news today, are 2 lovers who have earned the fame of being the first ones to be charged with baby dumping in Malaysia. Check out <a href="http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/8/17/nation/6869672&sec=nation" rel="nofollow">this news article</a>.Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-15166844465372925602010-08-17T13:29:23.779+08:002010-08-17T13:29:23.779+08:00Socrates,
I don't think I can agree with you ...Socrates,<br /><br />I don't think I can agree with you in comparing baby dumping to drug trafficking, even if baby dumping is made a capital crime. These are two different problems caused by 2 different motives.<br /><br />In the case of drug trafficking, the principal driving force is the <b>prospect of profits</b>. The heavier the penalty, the more profits one can get from trafficking drugs, because presumably lesser people will be brave enough to be the dealers. The thing about many criminals is that they are always convinced that they can commit the crime and get away with it.<br /><br />On the other hand, in the case of baby dumping, the pricipal motive is that of <b>keeping a secret</b>. It is no more no less the sweeping of the rubbish under the carpet. Because of the expectation from society, eg that a Muslim is supposed to be religious, he or she should behave "religiously". That is an <b>image</b> that is to be protected at all cost, even if a baby has to die for it!<br /><br />Not only is a Muslim subject to the shame, but it is also possible that they will be penalised on religious grounds, much the same way a Muslim may be fined or caned for drinking beer.<br /><br />Therefore, although the other races dump babies too, you will find that most of the baby dumping cases are those committed by the Muslims. Although I don't have statistics in my possession right now, I would challenge anyone to prove me wrong!Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-85511473509699995982010-08-17T13:12:14.890+08:002010-08-17T13:12:14.890+08:00Sarah,
Actually, in Malaysia, we do have centres ...Sarah,<br /><br />Actually, in Malaysia, we do have centres "where a girl/woman can leave the baby anonymously, and safely". But then again, perhaps that word "anonymous" has a different meaning here in Malaysia. So it is quite possible that these people who are more concerned about their <b>image</b> would not take any chances. Hence better to just dump the baby and try very hard to forget the nightmare!Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-63465997170101239542010-08-17T13:06:38.091+08:002010-08-17T13:06:38.091+08:00I like to liken the case of baby dumping in Malays...I like to liken the case of baby dumping in Malaysia to the drug trafficking scenario.<br /><br />We can see that despite the mandatory death by hanging punishment imposed by Malaysia for those caught drug trafficking,this still doesn't stop or deter people from doing it. <br /><br />Of course there is always remorse and regrets when one is caught and sentence to death for it but nowadays the cases of drug trafficking and the use of innocent Malaysian girls as drug mules is actually on the increase.<br /><br />In Sabah,most of the baby dumping acts were committed by the pelarians(non-Malaysians)although many innocent Malaysians were also involved.<br /><br />Many pessimists in our society are doubtful that imposing stricter and heavier sentences will stop or deter irresponsible people from committing the act of baby dumping.<br /><br />The only good thing we can hope is that most of the dumped babies will be found before they die due to exposure to the cold,from hunger or attacks from animals or other elements.<br /><br />Maybe over here in Malaysia, we should ape what Sarah has enlightened us here that in the West they have hospitals with their own centres for the unwanted babies to be left there.Socrates29noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-66271147225296939412010-08-17T04:25:05.093+08:002010-08-17T04:25:05.093+08:00One solution to this here in the west is that hosp...One solution to this here in the west is that hospitals have their own centers where a girl/woman can leave the baby anonymously, and safely. I agree with you completely about the reasons a girl resorts to this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com