tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post4642993443274874151..comments2023-07-30T21:23:49.509+08:00Comments on Because I say so...: Politeness & BluntnessCorneliushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-21204333422958649262010-02-23T21:53:57.945+08:002010-02-23T21:53:57.945+08:00Yes, Amran, I can readily agree with that advice. ...Yes, Amran, I can readily agree with that advice. If only I knew how to do it though!... hehehe. But I will keep trying!Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-2609984707406703062010-02-23T09:43:13.370+08:002010-02-23T09:43:13.370+08:00Over the years, I have learned that we ought to te...Over the years, I have learned that we ought to tell the truth even it is bitter. But how we say it make the different!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03355319178928699078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-30400265855258347962010-02-12T14:54:15.178+08:002010-02-12T14:54:15.178+08:00Tekko,
Thanks for your support, my friend. And no...Tekko,<br /><br />Thanks for your support, my friend. And no, it's not a pressure at all. And of course even if it is, I have no intention to change my style and blog title, that's for sure!<br /><br />I ended this post with:<br /><br /><i>"If you have a choice between the two, would you prefer me to be polite or blunt?"</i> <br /><br />I said <b><i>IF</i></b> my readers had a choice. But I didn't say that they actually had those choices... HAHAHA!Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-78540068857152418452010-02-12T14:49:51.506+08:002010-02-12T14:49:51.506+08:00Sarah,
The title can sound quite imposing, I gues...Sarah,<br /><br />The title can sound quite imposing, I guess. Well, at least I have admitted openly that I am a stubborn man several times. Hehehe.Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-41993108360845117012010-02-10T11:04:41.471+08:002010-02-10T11:04:41.471+08:00Don't bow to pressure. don't change yr sty...Don't bow to pressure. don't change yr style or blog title. It's what keep me coming back to read even though I don't know youAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07579773431818508168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-56758558596050541062010-02-10T08:33:54.219+08:002010-02-10T08:33:54.219+08:00I like Socrates comment about your blog title.. LO...I like Socrates comment about your blog title.. LOL! Kinda funny,,, =)~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-30864248750248467282010-02-09T22:46:34.002+08:002010-02-09T22:46:34.002+08:00Haha! What's wrong with the name of this blog,...Haha! What's wrong with the name of this blog, Socrates29? I love that name because that is sooooo like ME, don't you think? <br /><br />However, as I said above, although I would love others to agree with me, I always try my best to justify my arguments. I'm aware that some people may disagree anyway, but hey, that's life, this is a free country. I can't force ALL my readers to agree with me. Well, OK, at least I'd like to think that this is a free country!<br /><br />Besides, I don't believe that by changing the name of this blog, I'll be able to change the way people think about me anyway. So I guess I'll try to live with it. I know I'm never gonna make everyone love me (smile.)Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-48350247861924839562010-02-09T22:32:02.205+08:002010-02-09T22:32:02.205+08:00My only comment is the title of your blog - "...My only comment is the title of your blog - "Because I say so.....".<br /><br />Maybe you can consider modifying it a bit so that it doesn't sound so authoritative.<br /><br />Just my 2 cent piece.<br />Socrates29Socrates29noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-86306321807993134442010-02-09T19:50:29.164+08:002010-02-09T19:50:29.164+08:00"You always need to have the last say - witho...<i>"You always need to have the last say - without fail. If you don't believe me, check out all comments you have made here and wherever that you have posted. You stated your peace, let others did theirs."</i> <br /><br />Yes and no. Yes, I always try my best to argue my case, citing examples and authorities etc in the process, and if I can convince the other party to agree with me, then that is great! But there have been times when I do eventually agree with the opponent too. One example I can remember now from the top of my head is on the issue of a hypothetical answer for a question from my own hunt. My intended answer was DORS, whereas my opponent(s) argued for the acceptability of either "D" or "S" independently. Go find that post again, and see if I gave in in the end. For your further information, at least one of those who debated against me sent me a text message, apologizing for disagreeing with me in my blog. But I quickly told that person not to be silly. I was not offended at all.<br /><br /><i>"But you always need to rebut when those views are not the same as yours. You just need to have the last laugh, don't you.??"</i> <br /><br />Yes, if I disagree with your views, then you can expect me to say so without reservations. But I'm not sure where you got that part about the "need to have the last laugh". I don't moderate comments from my readers. I can very easily block all comments which are against mine. But I allow ALL comments from my readers, whether they agree or disagree with me. I don't deal with my opponents in such a cheap way. So yes, I would love to win my debates, and I would love to have to last say. But I never disallow what my opponents have to say. <br /><br />I have stated my peace, now I'm allowing others theirs. Fair enough?Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-10883494337485693092010-02-09T19:36:48.264+08:002010-02-09T19:36:48.264+08:00Peter!
Been a while since your last comment!
Let...Peter!<br /><br />Been a while since your last comment!<br /><br />Let's see, you have some interesting questions, my friend. Let me try to answer them:<br /><br /><i>"You can be blunt and yet polite."</i> <br /><br />I think I am inclined to agree with this. But I'm not sure if it's always possible to achieve it. When something hurts, it's gonna be hurtful even if it comes from a polite informant. But I suppose the pain is enhanced coming from an impolite informant. So, yes, there is value in politeness. No argument there.<br /><br /><i>"And if there is something you need to learn, you need to know when to STOP. An example, I really can't see a reason or even an excuse for you to bring back the issue of HRU's Challenge in Mike's blog recently. That was history - to you , to HRU and to every hunters who were part of it. If anyone has learned a lesson from that, Fine. If no, bringing it up again will IMHO do not good, other than to get on people's nerves."</i> <br /><br />This one I must beg to differ. From my teaching experience many years ago, I've learned that people can relate more when statements or ideas are supported by examples. <br /><br />But this habit goes beyond my teaching experience. It is also a common habit among many, many professionals. <br /><br />When lawyers argue their cases, they almost always support them with past decisions or other authorities. So the contract in a supermarket is concluded at the cashier's desk, not at the point when items are taken from the shelves: <i>Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain vs Boots Cash Chemist.</i> <br /><br />Whenever I make a statement, I almost always try to support that statement with historical facts. In that particular comment you're referring to, I made a statement about the tendency of new CoCs <i>"to over-complicate"</i> the riddles. In order to lend weight on that statement, it was necessary to support it with an example. I found that example in the Hunters Challenge. I quoted that example not for the sake of tarnishing the reputation of the CoC, but merely to drive home my point. I have cited many examples in most of my discussions before, and in some cases I even quoted my own questions as negative examples. If you don't believe me, check out my other posts or comments and you will see that I almost always cite authorities or examples when I comment, not only in this particular comment you're referring to.<br /><br />Having said that, however, I have now been told that I had misunderstood the true intentions of the CoC for Hunters Challenge. Apparently, the Hunters Challenge was not mainly intended to encourage new hunters. I'm sure there's a very good reason why I thought so, but well, if I am wrong, then I must sincerely apologise to the HRU.<br /><br />Yes, I agree with you that sometimes I do get on people's nerves. I try not to if I can help it.<br /><br />I will post this first and then attend to your other comments.Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-74028427552383998162010-02-09T18:50:39.812+08:002010-02-09T18:50:39.812+08:00And thanks to Anonymous friend too. Delivery... I&...And thanks to Anonymous friend too. Delivery... I'll bear that in mind. I don't have the confidence that I'll be able to do it, but I will try.Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-73935617317316304262010-02-09T18:49:23.206+08:002010-02-09T18:49:23.206+08:00Sarah & Teo,
OK, that's a good vote, poli...Sarah & Teo,<br /><br />OK, that's a good vote, politely blunt. If only I knew how!... HAHAHA!Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-33898549073130787972010-02-09T18:48:28.446+08:002010-02-09T18:48:28.446+08:00Been outstation for inspection. I see this post ha...Been outstation for inspection. I see this post has attracted quite a number of my readers, huh?<br /><br />Sarah (WWR),<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. I'm blunt most of the time, but I doubt that I would actually tell someone that he or she is ugly.<br /><br />But as I said, sometimes truth hurts. And when someone says something like, "tell me the truth, do I look good in this new dress?" And in your opinion, that dress looks awful, yet you know that it will be painful for your friend if you told her that the dress looks awful. What then? Would you lie to your friend to be polite?Corneliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08049388322332876859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-47102921966341953792010-02-09T12:23:34.003+08:002010-02-09T12:23:34.003+08:00I have not been blogging or commenting much latel...I have not been blogging or commenting much lately. I do find this entry a bit interesting and just got an itch to write something.<br /><br />Firstly, to Corny, why not trying to write about 'yours'? (refer first para). You might find a fan or two whom might be interested!!<br /><br /><br />Here's where I find an interesting sentence from the write-up:<br /><br /><i>From my experience talking to people, I found that most of them prefer me to be truthful rather than polite.</i> <br /><br />I believe you may have misconstrued the people around you. Or rather not accurately construed. Most would prefer honesty and truthfulness. But being truthful and honest does not need to be impolite. As 'anno' put it, it is the delivery. You can be blunt and yet polite. <br /><br />And if there is something you need to learn, you need to know when to STOP. An example, I really can't see a reason or even an excuse for you to bring back the issue of HRU's Challenge in Mike's blog recently. That was history - to you , to HRU and to every hunters who were part of it. If anyone has learned a lesson from that, Fine. If no, bringing it up again will IMHO do not good, other than to get on people's nerves.<br /><br />A second example. You always need to have the last say - without fail. If you don't believe me, check out all comments you have made here and wherever that you have posted. You stated your peace, let others did theirs. But you always need to rebut when those views are not the same as yours. You just need to have the last laugh, don't you.??<br /><br />Well, Corny, this is bluntness without politeness. Haha.. <i>(Bet this will not be the last laugh)</i>peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-47692369447716838292010-02-09T10:31:31.404+08:002010-02-09T10:31:31.404+08:00yeah, i agree. its all in the delivery :)yeah, i agree. its all in the delivery :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-47980799203369425492010-02-09T08:19:45.344+08:002010-02-09T08:19:45.344+08:00Agree with Sarah....politely blunt.Agree with Sarah....politely blunt.teonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-38883919232895961352010-02-09T07:27:29.455+08:002010-02-09T07:27:29.455+08:00Well, in our case, from our previous discussions (...Well, in our case, from our previous discussions (and arguments), I think it is good we tell/told the truth and were blunt concerning racial beliefs, ideas about religion, and society.. I have seen it as a way for both of us to teach and learn from each other, even if we don't agree... <br /><br /> As far as family, I do believe in being blunt. I think my Mom drinks too much, and I told her how I feel because I don't think we should have to tiptoe around the people we love. If my husband asks whether a shirt looks good, or a haircut, I tell him the truth. I would hope he does the same for me. <br />BUT, I do believe the way we say things has a lot to do with how the message is received.<br /><br /> So, my vote is for you to be politely blunt... =)~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8760307254603261893.post-47100865120051106312010-02-09T01:09:37.077+08:002010-02-09T01:09:37.077+08:00There are some situations where telling the truth ...There are some situations where telling the truth hurts someone, without the possibility of doing any good. Like telling someone they are ugly for no reason. But when it <i>can</i> potentially do good, I say go for it. It's then just a matter of choosing how best to deliver it.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11320601087412404116noreply@blogger.com